• Ogmios@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    Many of you are the last idiots I would want to be stuck in the trenches with in a real revolution. You need to grow the fuck up before you end up knee deep in the blood of your friends and family, wondering how it came to this. Assuming it’s not your own blood.

    This isn’t a damn movie where everyone claps because the bad guy is dead. It’s a massively complex multi-faceted conflict where everyone losing is a very real potential.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      This isn’t a damn movie where everyone claps because the bad guy is dead.

      Alright, I’ll get back to you and be sure to apologize when this alleged Act II starts and shit goes south. For now, I’m going to be enjoying the part where everyone claps because the bad guy is dead.

    • LukeS26 (He/They)@lemm.ee
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      4 hours ago

      I mean honestly the being knee deep in blood because a revolution started after one guy was acquitted for killing a CEO sounds way more like a movie plot to me but idk.

      Regardless, the point of that wasn’t that “the CEO is dead, now everyone is saved!!!” Right now we literally have a situation where a dictator was removed from power in Syria. The outcome of that is still unknown, and could turn into something worse or something better, time will tell. But either way no-one is really saying “how dare they violently overthrow the government, don’t you know that violence is bad”, because that would be a stupid reaction to Assad being removed.

      In any of these situations saying that the person using violence to respond to violence deserves to be imprisoned doesn’t make sense. Luigi Mangione would not be someone I’d feel unsafe walking past in the street, so why should they be locked up? The point of a prison system should be preventing someone from committing crime again, but I wouldn’t be worried about that in the case of Mangione so it makes no sense to sentence them to prison.

      I also don’t want a violent revolution to come from this. Some violent actions leading to a government making large reforms as a concession to avoid further violence is something that happened all throughout history, and is how we got the New Deal. Something like that coming out of actions like this would be great, but my ideal system of change is more based on mutual aid and setting up dual power to allow people alternatives to replace corporations or weak government programs. But if a violent revolution does happen, it still doesn’t make sense to blame the people being oppressed and not the corporations doing the oppressing.