https://www.cdc.gov/reproductive-health/data-statistics/abortion-surveillance-findings-reports.html for the abortion numbers.
Truly disgusting that you think any women dying is acceptable, let alone a “damn good trade”.
Ironic.
And all of those babies are in loving caring homes that can afford to take care of them? None of the families were forced to keep them?
I hear your argument, but I also wonder what percentage of people think back and say, “My childhood wasn’t ideal, I wish I had never been born at all.”
A lot. Childhood trauma, more often than not, never goes away.
TBF yeah we don’t hear those people complain because they just kill themselves. But even then, they should be given that choice rather than being murdered before birth.
I can’t wait for a portion of these 50k babies to be blamed for increase in crime, drug use and poverty.
Anything to justify murdering them I guess
Do you support the death penalty, or are you too thick to understand the difference between murder and abortion?
I do, I just don’t pretend that fetuses do anything worthy of being put to death.
Edit: bonkers response lol, these are like the worst abortion arguments I’ve heard in my life. If y’all are gonna advocate for murdering babies at least be better at it lollllllll
How many foster kids have you taken in? How many unwanted children have you adopted?
“Oh really, you hate the Nazis? How many Jews have you taken in to live with you?”
…that is not the gotcha you think it is… in fact you just made their point for them with that comment.
Sure buddy
Yet another ignorant fool thinks he knows better than scientific consensus…
Life doesn’t begin at conception, you dunce. You can stop say an abortion is equal to “saving babies” anytime now. That is a ridiculous untruth.
When does “the science” say life begins?
It doesn’t. Life is a continuum, it doesn’t care what artificial labels we try to put on things. A fertilized egg is just as alive as an unfertilized one, or a sperm cell, by any scientific definition of life, highlights how useless it is to try and use that definition to argue about abortion.
A fertilized egg is just as alive as an unfertilized one
Source?
From the National Institute for Health
In biology, it is generally agreed that organisms that possess the following seven characteristics are animate or living beings and thus possess life: the ability to respire, grow, excrete, reproduce, metabolize, move, and be responsive to the environment
The article as a whole elaborates that even trying to pin down a single definiton of life is a bit of a fool’s errand, much less trying to use such a definition to support arguments about when life starts or stops.
From the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (which actually is just re-quoting an entirely different article, one of many discussed within)
We propose to define living systems as those that are: (1) composed of bounded micro-environments in thermodynamic equilibrium with their surroundings; (2) capable of transforming energy to maintain their low-entropy states; and (3) able to replicate structurally distinct copies of themselves from an instructional code perpetuated indefinitely through time despite the demise of the individual carrier through which it is transmitted.
From a University of Minnesota Introduction to Biology course
All groups of living organisms share several key characteristics or functions: order, sensitivity or response to stimuli, reproduction, adaptation, growth and development, regulation, homeostasis, and energy processing. When viewed together, these characteristics serve to define life.
In short, there really isn’t any unified definition of life. Comparing different definitions, there’s common themes that emerge, but nothing that supports saying conception is when it starts. If you’re going to use that definition, you can’t support it by saying that “science” defines it that way.
I guess my thing is those descriptors don’t apply to unfertilized embryos.
Probably good that nobody asks you
Why are you in this com?
To fight against your misleading propaganda.
Do these children live in happy, healthy homes?
…or are they resented every day by their parents that were forced to have them, slowly building up childhood trauma that, by all studies on the topic, will never be resolved and will always plague them?
…or are they forced into the already-overburdened foster system, where children are regularly abused and neglected? Oh, and just to be clear, you’re aware that Texas has among the most crowded systems in the country, right?
Ohhhh sorry, I forgot you’re all just pro-birth instead of pro-life.
So, what, kill everyone who can’t live in a healthy home?
This mindset is insane and it’s so weird that people who hold it act like they have the moral high ground or something.
I’m pretty sure he’s advocating for eugenics.
IDK if eugenics is the word for it but he’s certainly advocating for…something interesting
They’re indirectly advocating for classism and suggesting that the “undesirables” aren’t worthy of life, and/or can’t attain personal or economic value.
It’s really fucking weird when you think about it. Like, pick a lane.
It’s weird, to be sure, and maybe I’m being pedantic, but genocide refers specifically to genetics and that doesn’t seem to be why most of the people here support abortion. Pro-abortion arguments are usually ageist or ableist rather than genocidal.
Wow! I’m honestly surprised to hear that so many lives are being saved to quickly. This is wonderful news!