• blandfordforever@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    JD Vance says that school shootings are just a “fact of life.”

    I wonder if all this rage and hopelessness is starting to find a more productive outlet.

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      JD Vance says that school shootings are just a “fact of life.”

      Then it’s logical that preventing politician shootings should be budgeted similarly. Time to defund the entire secret service as part of those 75% government employee cuts. School shootings being resourced differently than oligarch shootings is a violation of the equal protections clause of the constitution, and therefore an illegal waste of our tax money.

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      8 days ago

      If the choice is between school shootings or CEO shootings, the latter is preferrable. I’d take that trade even if I were a CEO, but I doubt most CEO’s would.

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    7 days ago

    Many school shooters talk about wanting to be seen, wanting fame/notoriety, and so on. With the huge positive response to this, it wouldn’t be too surprising to see copycats. “If I do this, people will remember me and love me for it.”

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      You’re not wrong to question this. “Gun Violence Archive” labels any shooting (as in literally any time a gun goes off) on school property a “school shooting”. Some teacher ices themself in the parking lot? School shooting. Some gang kids blast each other in the yard at 1am? School shooting. Someone pops off a negligent discharge that doesn’t hit anyone? School shooting.

      CNN has tweaked this formula by only including times someone besides the shooter actually got shot, so a bit better than usual but still a useless number that we can’t use to make informed decisions.

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      7 days ago

      I know you’re kidding but…

      SCC Student Hurt After Dropping Firearm

      And this

      https://www.wtok.com/2024/12/03/mcc-campus-police-investigate-tuesday-morning-shooting/

      The person who was shot is a student at MCC, but it is unknown if they were on campus to attend class.

      MCC Police say this is a targeted attack and there is no danger to the public.

      But yea totally a school shooting… it’s bad data like this is the reason most people ignore these bullshit headlines.

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        7 days ago

        it’s bad data like this is the reason most people ignore these bullshit headlines.

        Sounds like you have an agenda to protect your own gun fetish and are ignoring or twisting data that doesn’t suit your own needs. A quick review of your postings and your talking about ammunition calibers confirms it. I think putting your gun fetish above the lives of children is one of the most unmanly things I have ever seen. But you do you, tough guy.

        Here’s the raw data of all shootings in the US. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

        And here’s an article that talks about reviewing that data https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

        I hope you have kids someday.

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          Sounds like you have an agenda to protect your own gun fetish and are ignoring or twisting data that doesn’t suit your own needs. A quick review of your postings and your talking about ammunition calibers confirms it. I think putting your gun fetish above the lives of children is one of the most pathetic and unmanly things I have ever seen. But you do you, tough guy. I bet you have a picture of yourself holding a gun somewhere in your bedroom, don’t you.

          So I provide proof that the data is bad and misconstrued…and the best you can do is make personal attacks?

          Here’s the raw data of all shootings in the US. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

          That’s literally where I got the data from champ.

          And here’s an article that talks about reviewing that data https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

          Which again, reviews the data in a biased way…

          Which drops your complaints about the data right into the trash where they belong.

          Except it doesn’t. Literally provided two random links from the GVA that are labeled AS school shootings…

          You really need to think again about doing the hard things to protect your community instead of putting your own ego first.

          Like making sure minorities aren’t lacking in force multipliers? And not wanting to strip them of their right to protect themselves?

          One of those hard things is maybe not being such a gun nut when our oversized gun ownership patterns lead to oversized gun violence problems.

          Yea we really don’t have a gun problem, we have a societal one. Which trying to remove guns from people is just going to disarm the law abiding ones and allow the criminals and gov/police to have the force.

          Get off your arse, grow up ( I see you like to talk about video game cards as well) and get to work.

          Lol you really went through my profile a ton their chief. I have been in my career for nearly 2 decades. Am the lead architect at global IT security company. Video games are what childish now? Lol

          You might have kids someday and by then it’ll be too late to clean up your manchild-made mess.

          You’re literally talking to someone with children.