Bonnie and Clyde! Billy the Kid! I haven’t yet met the cute got girl who doesn’t have a list of favorite serial killers!
Can’t remember his name, but the right love to fawn over the guy who built “killdozer”
John Dillinger had his fans too. I recall going to a wax museum in Indiana dedicated to him. There was a display with an electric chair in it.
My favorite example is Pretty Boy Floyd.
Blackbeard, Colonial Revolutionaries, Jesse James, Billy the kid, Butch Cassidy, Wild Bill Hickock, Guy Fawx, Al Capone, John Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffery Dahmer, OJ Simpson, Mike Tyson, Donald Trump.
I don’t think Manson, Gacy, or Dahmer are idolized.
Simpson and Tyson are idolized for their non-criminal activities, not because they’re criminals. They’re not famous for being criminals, whereas most of the others are.
Trump is definitely an interesting one though…lol
Dahmer is one of those who had prison groupies. As do the Columbine shooters, Harris and Klebold. Apparently there’s a certain kind of chick that gets lubed up for mass murderers.
George Floyd
That’s more of a “minor crimes don’t deserve execution” thing
I think George Floyd is mentioned by people to highlight how out of control the police in America are. They are thugs with badges, and they need to be reigned in, but that’s not likely to happen due to America leaning more toward “bootlicker” these days. George Floyd was murdered by shit cops. He should be remembered so we can hold bad police actions accountable. Fuck the police.
You just started naming criminals.
Gotta be honest, that’s literally what outlaw means
I think outlaw also implies being on the run.
Being an actual outlaw literally means you have been declared outside of the law for your presumed crimes. Anyone can kill you without question because society has washed its hands of you.
On the way to that status you will typically rack up some warrants and bounty offers.
Or not, depending on how corrupt the judge was.
I’m not arguing but there was a clear delineation where it went from like 20s outlaws to like 1990s pop culture criminals.
That would be “time”… you go through history and eventually you get to 1990.
Jesse James.
Billy the Kid.
Jeffery Dahmer.
Charles Manson.
Al Capone.
Baby Face Nelson.
And many, many more.
Out of all these, though, the only one I have seen still be idolized in some capacity is Dahmer. Women seem to love him, despite the fact he was gay. And a cannibal.
Bonnie and Clyde
also the most prominent idolized today isn’t Dahmer; it’s the guy who just got elected for president
To that extent, Trump
I still think that guy needs to go fuck off a cliff, but he fits the premise right?
Do people really idolize dahmer?
Is it just america? robin hood. guy fawkes.
Brazil has Lampião and Padre Ciço. … Though Ciço is less ‘criminal’ and more ‘heretic’. He’s considered a saint by many nevertheless.
Guy Fawkes isn’t idolised, the festival is about burning him alive and even if you don’t agree with that his reasons for doing what he did were shit
Guy fawks is British
Yes, that is the point
“is it just America? Guy Fawkes” means “is it just america? Guy Fawkes is an example of an outlaw idolized by Americans who is not himself an American”
I’d love to hear where you think Robin Hood is from
From da 'hood, obviously.
I thought both were from the uk.
They are
Yeah I can’t refute stinkys comment without actually living there or at least having a friend or something I stay in close contact with or something.
Revolting and overthrowing a government is against the law…so all the mother fuckers that signed that paper with Hancock.
Julian Assange, Edward Snowden…
I think it comes from America’s roots – America was founded on liberty and freedom, and to some extent, questioning authority, and I think since then it’s been somewhat cyclical with socioeconomic changes.
It’s also part of the American mythos that is perpetuated in film and music. We have superheroes like Batman, Spider-Man, Green Arrow, western heroes like Zorro and the Lone Ranger, movies like Star Wars, The Hunger Games, Bonnie & Clyde, shows like Mr. Robot…
The rap genre
Hehehe
The entire eastern genre
Well classic rap.
Today’s rap doesn’t have as much bragging and flexing. Not to say it doesn’t happen, it’s just not as significant as classic rap.
Today’s rap doesn’t have as much bragging and flexing
What rap are you listening to🤨? And what do you define as classic rap?
Yeah today’s rap definitely has bragging and flexing, it’s just sort of flanderized from “I’m a thug who is tough, fight hard to get what I’ve got, look at me now” to “I’ve got money, I get women, I get fucked up”
Does Jack Sparrow count?
I think Rosa Parks and the Boston Tea Party-goers can be counted.
The guy who shot that CEO, is probably the most recent example…
the entire western genre
Hehehe
The Oklahoma Sooners, settled in the territory sooner than the enactment of the law allowing them to do so, thereby giving them an advantage over the law-abiders in claiming the most valuable acreage.
You can see it in our media, even comic books. The Punisher is wanted by law enforcement all the time. Just look at the United Health Care shooting. Guy does what the Punisher does and he instantly becomes an American hero.
