Gee, who didn’t see that coming a million miles away.
Lol a pardon doesn’t work for anyone but the pardoned person. Why is this even an argument?
He was going to do this regardless. Like, we all get that right?
He’s convicted but not charged, does anyone really think it’ll be bad politically to just pardon himself? Is sycophants don’t care and clearly don’t have memories past 4 years.
Trump doesn’t care how anything looks. He loves to violate laws and civilized norms of behavior, he thinks it makes him look strong.
As president, could Trump pardon himself?
Putting aside the specific matter of jurisdiction (state level cases require state level pardons), legal experts widely agree that the concept of a self-pardon does not exist in pretty much any body of law, ever, because it basically refutes the idea of there being a body of law.
But, given that the supreme court decided that the president is a god-king emperor, the fact that he can’t legally do it no longer really matters.
because it basically refutes the idea of there being a body of law
So does money being the same as speech. So does presidential immunity.
There seems to be a pattern here.
But, given that the supreme court decided that the president is a god-king emperor, the fact that he can’t legally do it no longer really matters.
That’s what I was wondering about
The answer, as I understand it, is basically “Who the fuck knows?”
Every serious legal analyst seems to agree that the SC’s immunity decision is, uh… I think the technical term is “Total fucking lunacy.” It makes no sense, destroys a lot of existing legal precedent, and generally overturns many of the foundational principles of the US constitution. It’s batshit crazy, and the actual terms of the immunity and how it’s defined are astonishingly vague.
What the president can or cannot do right now is more or less “???”
Authoritarians have only one reason: “Because I said so.”
Trump accepting the pardon from himself means he’s guilty but gets no consequences, sort of maintaining the status quo.
Trump accepting the pardon from himself means he’s guilty
Accepting a pardon does not require an admission of guilt. That’s a myth. There is no part of the pardon process where you are required to admit guilt
In fact, pardons have been issued because the pardoning authority determined that a person has been wrongly convicted. And at the federal level, general pardons have also been issued. In the case of a general pardon, if you accept one, what are you pleading guilty to? Every possible potential crime covered by the pardon?
Garland was dicta. It was also bullshit.
