• wick@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    But don’t you know about the azov battalion? This is relevant, please believe me /s

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    1 month ago

    Speaking of Ukraine, did you know that currently there are North Korean solders contributing to the invasion. Not only 3 day special military operation is taking 3 years, but also russia, by itself, is unable to complete it.

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    1 month ago

    How the heck is that US propaganda? It’s historical fact

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      1 month ago

      Um, aktually, the Ukronazis started the war in 1991 when they ILLEGALLY declared ‘independence’ from the glorious USSR with a paltry 93% in approval of the plebiscite.

      Alternatives or addendums:

      • Crimea was actually invaded by polite green men with no Russian affiliation and the resulting election was completely free and fair
      • Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!
      • NATO provocation mind-controlled Putin into invading
      • Everything started in 2022 and Russian troops were AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKED when all they did was kill a few border guards and try to drive an entire army to Kyiv!
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        1 month ago

        Tankies = Ruscists = Fascists

        Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!

        Good old Sudetendeutsche excuse. 卐

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            It doesn’t even matter in this day and age. Claims have no meaning anymore since borders are internationally recognized as they are and only legitimately changed through diplomacy, not through acts of war. In this case, Russia very much, on multiple occasions, acknowledged the borders (including Crimea) and Ukraine’s sovereignty - including their potential wish to join NATO (I don’t remember if it was Lavrov who said it, it was some old interview).

    • index@sh.itjust.works
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      1 month ago

      I’m gonna guess because the instance is administrated by lemmy main devs and despite them being tankies the quality of discussion is still higher than in other instances. You can compare lemmy.ml local home with lemmy.world

      • barsquid@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I’ve seen you urging US voters to back third parties despite the mathematical realities of FPTP voting. Of course you prefer discussion on .ml.

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            1 month ago

            I don’t agree with the atrocity they are committing. Link me to my defense of Israel or (my preference) stop telling lies.

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          1 month ago

          What’s the alternative? Urging them to vote for a fascist or for a genocide supporter?

          Lemmy.world home is filled with memes and news from mass media. Lemmy.ml home looks ten times more serious.

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              Unsupporting the red and blue party will shift the power somewhere else from the same two parties that have been ruling for a century. The only thing preventing someone else from winning is the narrative that a third party can never win. The same narrative continues to be told election after election decade after decade, it’s not so hard to see how it’s been used by the government to never really change administration and cycle in power the red and blue party.

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                Let’s pretend for a second the largest third parties were viable. That leaves us a brain worm antivaxxer, an anarchocapitalist, and a Russian asset. Are any of those really better?

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                  They aint gonna give you a straight answer assuming they will answer at all, cause they are lying about their reasons either to you and/or themselves. But yeah even including third parties the Dems are generally the best, Democratic Socialists and localised parties not withstanding since they generally caucus with the Dems nationally.

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                  US government is supporting a genocide, ramping up WW3 and entrusting elon musk the military space sector. I think it’s going to take anyone some serious effort to make it worst than that.

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      I’m brand new to Lemmy.

      I’ve seen multiple comments suggesting that .ml be defederated. It was the first thing I saw when I got here. Sounds like there’s a bad apple and nothing is being done about it

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    Meanwhile, they’ve poisoned the discourse enough that mods on other instances are over-sensitive to anything that even resembles the sort of stuff they say, and are going overboard in the other direction. For example, I got 24h banned from !politics@lemmy.world a few days ago for calling Democrats right-wing (which is also an easily verifiable fact – nobody disputes that economic liberalism is right-wing, except apparently in that community now).

    Edit: some people here are really mad about facts. FYI, you folks are part of the problem. I’ll also note that none of the downvoters have bothered to refute my argument/explain why the mod action against me was justified, so I can only conclude that they know I’m right and are simply butthurt about it for some reason.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      the morons brought their dress uniforms to an invasion believing they’d be needed for the PARADES.

      goddamn I can’t tell who’s dumber, putin thinking this shit would work, or the idiots that tried it.

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      1 month ago

      I’ve heard that it was just a propaganda quote from a western general and a ten year attrition war is going as planned

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        Russia is so glorious and advanced that even their three-day invasions last over 300× longer!

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    Not everyone believes the same thing about complex events. Lemmy’s userbase is probably dominated by western white men in tech, judging by the general sentiment on certain issues. Information that is posted ought to be true but we’re not obliged to take sides and automatically accept the western narrative on the Ukraine conflict.