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      Depends on how it’s eradicated.

      If the actual assassin, not the patsy, really wanted to make sure. He might be capable of making really really sure.

      Dropping a tank on it or destroying a city block might not be beyond his pay grade.

      A BB gun is not making sure. Just a bit cleaner and quieter.

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        Not a crime against society, so possibly not a crime.

        The word, crime, is subjective. Much like the word, value.

        Really what is wanted is play court and feel special.

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        23 hours ago

        Yes breaking the law is a “crime” but to be a criminal you need to have the verdict saying you committed it. Innocent until proven and all. A “not guilty” or null result means not a criminal.

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          Guilty’s meaning depends on whose the listener

          That you present the set of possible states of guilty poorly aside, are assuming everyone shares your POV.

          I can present your bullshit more clearly. So lets do that

          For someone to be labeled a criminal they must have been convicted in a court of law by their peers and all avenues of appeals have been exhausted. This is the only situation where the word criminal can be used by anyone besides paid liers and illusionists.

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            No it’s a poor journalistic standard to cast guilt before trial. If some random person was saying it who cares. This is a large public facing news entity though.

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      23 hours ago

      I mean i agree ethically and morally. I was just commenting on NYT not understanding how laws work.