DISCLAIMER - I am not planning on fighting a pelican.

there’s a brown pelican that hangs out on the railing of a very narrow portion of a boardwalk nearby. the only reason it makes me nervous is because it’s huge, but their nails look short, and their beaks are pointed, but curved downwards so they would have to try to bite me with that long thing instead of pecking me.

like, if a bird capable of clawing or eating my eyes out attacked my face, I’d honestly have no qualms about killing it immediately. but if I ever get attacked by a pelican, it looks like I could just kind of hold it off without having to hurt it. am I right in that?

  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    21 minutes ago

    how badly could a pelican fuck me up in a fight?

    DISCLAIMER - I am not planning on fighting a pelican.

    there’s a brown pelican that hangs out…

    Poetry.

    Actually, wait…

    how badly could a

    pelican fuck me up in

    a fight? DISCLAIMER

    .

    I am not planning

    on fighting a pelican.

    There’s a brown peli-

  • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    2 hours ago

    DISCLAIMER - I am not planning on fighting a pelican.

    I need this on a T-shirt.

    Seriously, this is the best thing I have seen on the Internet in a long time. It’s like I’m in 2013 all over again. Lol.

      • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        55 minutes ago

        Nah, I like the original way more.

        “I’m not planning on fighting a pelican” comes off as “well, I’m not planning on it, but it could happen”,

        while “I’m not planning on fighting a pelican” comes off as almost a political statement: “Statement: I do not have plans to fight a pelican.” like a politician at a press release.

        I feel the latter would confuse people more. Lol.

        • Ellia Plissken@lemm.eeOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          29 minutes ago

          during the first women’s march I wore a shirt that said “nobody for president” and everybody loved it including the counterprotesters

  • dubyakay@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    edit-2
    3 hours ago

    We were on a Zoo trip during summer camp, me and my brother and a bunch of other kids from our judo class. Mostly early teens.

    Certain areas in the Zoo had free roaming animals, mostly kangaroos, emu, peacocks, some ponies, goats and sheep. A couple kids had the great idea to pester the pelicans. Pelican are a funny bunch that keep begging for treats with their giant beaks open and waddling around. They look less than threatening, although they have that frowny looking eye.

    Anyway the kids decided it’d be fun to take turns spitting into the beaks of one particular giant pelican instead of giving it treats. It didn’t really like it but the kids kept persisting, daring to lean in closer and closer into the pelican’s wide open beak. Finally my stupid little brother in the spur of the moment thought he’d show the other kids how it’s done. He ran up to the pelican, leaned in really close and spit the most nasty wad into its beak. At that moment the pelican turned its head sideways and

    *** CLAP ***

    I’ll never forget the sight of my brothers head being completely engulfed by a giant beak.

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    The grab only lasted for a blink of an eye. My brother didn’t even have time to realize what happened and struggle against it. He came out with a surprised and slightly scratched face. The surprise turned into a grin and then laughter within seconds.

    Nevertheless, the pelican gained the respect from the kids and they’ve stopped pestering it. But somehow I imagine that this is basically the worst they can do. Give you a stereo-slap on your ears with their beak. You are safe against that brown pelican.

    Be glad it’s not a cobra chicken.

  • djsoren19@yiffit.net
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    edit-2
    8 hours ago

    I’m gonna let everyone in on a lil secret.

    You can absolutely fuck up a bird. Their bones are hollow and light, making them super kickable. Even a 4" human still has multiple feet of height over most species of bird, meaning you can wind up a solid kick and still probably send whatever beaked menace is after you flying. If it comes for your eyes or face, even your weakest punch will give it pause.

    Now, defending yourself from a bird attack without harming the bird attacking you? Yeah that’s really hard, because most of your immediate reactions like trying to grab or restrain it will likely result in hurting the bird.

      • jiberish@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 hours ago

        And where were they now  The little people of Stonehenge  And what would they say to us  If we were here tonight

    • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      4 hours ago

      I had an incredibly aggressiveale duck that would come after me all the time. He was big, like 20lbs at least, and I’d kick him in the chest with the side ofy foot when he came at me all angry like. His chest was the meatiest part of him, so I wasn’t worried about damaging him with kinda wimpy kicks. Bastard became soup real quickly, though. Overly aggressive birds in my flock don’t get the privilege of being pets.

    • Ellia Plissken@lemm.eeOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      6 hours ago

      did you know that one of the reasons their bones are hollow is because they assist the lungs with intaking oxygen to provide all the oxygen needed for flight? it’s not just weight saving

  • Ersatz86@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    edit-2
    9 hours ago

    Haven’t seen it mentioned here, so a word to the wise: their beaks are somewhere sharp-edged, and if you were to grasp the beak and your hand were to slide lengthwise (towards or away from the tip), you could sustain a nasty cut.

    Source: adolescent me harassing pelicans that were a lil too inquisitive about my days’ fishing catch on a dock somewhere near Cedar Key, FL.

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    ·
    11 hours ago

    Pelicans have stupid stumpy little legs, basically no talons because they have webbed ducklike feet, and are able to apply very little biting force with their beaks due to the length. Pelicans feed by scooping things up and swallowing them whole. They don’t bite, tear, or chew. I’ve never seen one try to peck anything. They’re certainly not built for that.

    If you grabbed a pelican by the beak I think there is vanishingly little it could actually do to you aside from squirming and flapping feathers all over the place. You should be fairly clear to yeet the thing into the ocean at your own convenience.

    • SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      4 hours ago

      I left this open for a while and forgot what post I was reading when I returned, so I misread your first sentence as “politicians” rather than pelicans…

      And lemme tell you, that was a quality chuckle.

  • YottaDren@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    61
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    12 hours ago

    Ok so my experience comes from catching chickens and clawed ducks as a child, so assuming you’re a full grown adult, and this chart, the ratios are the same.

    You gotta catch them from surprise, from the back, but it sounds like you’re already in the fight if shit goes down. The beak is your issue. The wings are just a distraction. Get the pelican bastard from the neck, as high as possible if you can and try to grab the legs. ChatGPT says they don’t really use their legs to fight, but worst case, start swinging it. I bet once you clamp on the beak, it’ll be hard for it to open. Like how alligators can chomp down, but have trouble opening. Once it’s subdued, it might stay freaked out for a while. You just gotta hold it until it accepts defeat.

    Then take it to your mom and she’ll take the head and feathers off for dinner.

    Best of luck brother.

  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    12 hours ago

    My knowledge of cartoon physics tells me that birds are essentially immune to any damage. If you punch them in the beak it will just spin around until they, using their opposable thumbs, adjust it back into place. If you punch them in the neck you’ll just leave a temporary fist shaped aberration in their spinal cord which will quickly snap back into place. Aiming for their feet or body is futile since they’ll just instantly dodge your attack by flexing their mass dramatically out of the way and instantly counter with significant emotional damage.

    It is a fight you can’t win good Sir or Madame.

  • theneverfox@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    11 hours ago

    I wouldn’t worry to much about pelicans. Fun fact - pelicans try to eat people sometimes. They basically try to eat every animal, because they have no sense of scale for their food they can swallow. And they don’t risk much by trying - most large animals have the same incredulous reaction we do

    They are not very bright birds nor very quick ones. They are also not very agile. And as a bird, they have hollow bones and you could kill them with a solid fist to the chest… I once saw the aftermath of two shin high dogs tearing one apart. On a small balcony. There was blood everywhere… The dogs were covered in it, completely uninjured and very pleased with themselves

    I wouldn’t worry, even if they have the sharp bits that could injure you, they lack the instincts to use them properly

        • marcos@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 hours ago

          There aren’t many videos out there of creatures trying to eat a capybara.

          It takes some ferocious kind of predator to even attempt it.

          • Ellia Plissken@lemm.eeOP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            6 hours ago

            capybara get eaten in the wild all the time. average lifespan of a wild one is 4 years, and the primary cause of death is predation. they can live 10 years in captivity

            their main form of defense is reproducing about as quickly as rabbits. they are sometimes competition for grazing land, but South Americans usually farm them if they’re a pest, rather than exterminating them, as they are very good meat animals. the Catholic Church classifies them as fish, so the more Catholic of community is, the more of them they’re eating (Catholics aren’t allowed to eat meat on friday, and somebody along the way decided fish weren’t meat. it wasn’t unusual to write the Vatican with a description vague enough to get something declared a fish; both the capybara and beaver were classified as fish because the people submitting the request just emphasized the amount of their lives they spend in the water), and there’s a medicinal grease produced from their skin that they use like petroleum jelly.

            • marcos@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              4 hours ago

              but South Americans usually farm them if they’re a pest, rather than exterminating them, as they are very good meat animals

              As a South American… Eww! Are you getting your facts from ChatGPT?

              Catholics aren’t allowed to eat meat on friday

              Again, as somebody that was grown catholic, where are you getting that from?

              Mostly large snakes and jaguars eat them. Otherwise, nothing is really a danger.

  • Boozilla@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    12 hours ago

    I have no idea, but I really hope some genius on Lemmy creates a simulation of this fight so we can all have a great time watching it.

  • snooggums@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    12 hours ago

    Most likely the worst it would do is some light scratches and bites, but that beak tip could tear up some skin if it scrapes across the skin like a box cutter knife. Those beak tips are surprisingly sharp.

    But it would all be superficial from the claws and beak. The main danger would be from bacteria and other pathogens causing infections if those wounds aren’t cleaned.

  • DandomRude@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    12 hours ago

    Can you please write a review on Google or something? I would love to know how you would rate the Pelican’s performance in your upcoming battle.

      • DandomRude@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        11 hours ago

        Maybe that one?

        Edit: They promise this on their website : “We deliver award-winning customer service by empowering our people to recognise the needs of our customers”.

  • chillinit@lemmynsfw.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    11 hours ago

    It’s basically the rules of a knife fight: The primary goal is to control the weapon, in this case the talons. Both of you are definitely going to get fucked up if you try.

    The bird’s on the boardwalk for food. The most aggressive thing it’s likely to do is to steal your food.

  • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    12 hours ago

    They could scratch you up for sure, maybe poke an eye, but they’re more likely to avoid to than attack unless they’re guarding a nest or something. If they come at you, take off your jacket, an umbrella, or grab a tarp or something and open it up to catch their beak/claws and probably scare them away too.

    If you happen to have something like an air horn, that would also probably scare them off.